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Completely forgot about that!
Don’t disagree with your team but I think it only just hits the 15 EQP threshold. And that’s if Hill plays.RugbyMarvel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:08 pmCongrats to the lads. Great to see it.
Shame for Raffi and Carps. Not quite enough time for Raffi and Carps has struggled last couple of matches which won’t have helped.
Will be a very difficult match up against Bath now.
I anticipate:
McIntyre / McElroy / John
Hill (Andrew’s if injured) / Van Rhyn
JLDP / DDP / Dugdale
Warr / RDP
Bedlow / L James
Reed / Carps / O’Flaherty
Caine / Onasanya / Harper / Beaumont / Bamber / Birch / Thomas / Curtis
When you put that side against Bath with the likes of Obano, Du Toit, Ewels, Reid, Pepper, Barbeary, Spencer, Russell, Ojomoh, Cokanasiga etc, feels like it could be a tough day
Raffi would replace Warr as said below but you would expect Warr to be on the bench then so no change.Yareet wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:49 pmDon’t disagree with your team but I think it only just hits the 15 EQP threshold. And that’s if Hill plays.RugbyMarvel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:08 pmCongrats to the lads. Great to see it.
Shame for Raffi and Carps. Not quite enough time for Raffi and Carps has struggled last couple of matches which won’t have helped.
Will be a very difficult match up against Bath now.
I anticipate:
McIntyre / McElroy / John
Hill (Andrew’s if injured) / Van Rhyn
JLDP / DDP / Dugdale
Warr / RDP
Bedlow / L James
Reed / Carps / O’Flaherty
Caine / Onasanya / Harper / Beaumont / Bamber / Birch / Thomas / Curtis
When you put that side against Bath with the likes of Obano, Du Toit, Ewels, Reid, Pepper, Barbeary, Spencer, Russell, Ojomoh, Cokanasiga etc, feels like it could be a tough day
I must be honest that I thought it was per match but it seems to be in game blocksRugbyMarvel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:56 pmRaffi would replace Warr as said below but you would expect Warr to be on the bench then so no change.Yareet wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:49 pmDon’t disagree with your team but I think it only just hits the 15 EQP threshold. And that’s if Hill plays.RugbyMarvel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:08 pmCongrats to the lads. Great to see it.
Shame for Raffi and Carps. Not quite enough time for Raffi and Carps has struggled last couple of matches which won’t have helped.
Will be a very difficult match up against Bath now.
I anticipate:
McIntyre / McElroy / John
Hill (Andrew’s if injured) / Van Rhyn
JLDP / DDP / Dugdale
Warr / RDP
Bedlow / L James
Reed / Carps / O’Flaherty
Caine / Onasanya / Harper / Beaumont / Bamber / Birch / Thomas / Curtis
When you put that side against Bath with the likes of Obano, Du Toit, Ewels, Reid, Pepper, Barbeary, Spencer, Russell, Ojomoh, Cokanasiga etc, feels like it could be a tough day
If Hill missing, then you put Andrew’s in there, Raffi at 9 and Thomas stays on the bench.
Forgive me, but I don’t know, do we have to hit 15 a game or is it an average across the year?
WGJ should be around this weekend. Only the England players are gone I think. Must be honest though that I've lost track who's injured. In theory...
Presumably for Bath it'll be
TBF when Slade was released to get some game time for Exeter before the Autumn Internationals it was whilst England were in camp in Spain (I remember a throwaway jokey line in an article or a podcast at the time saying he missed out on the team trip to watch Barcelona play a Champions League game as a result).
Oof @Major Bloodnok, that's a little much. We may not think a player has what it takes but I'm not sure we should be glad anyone's injured.
Aren't they both 12s really? If only we had an experienced 13 knocking around who could bring some seniority to that backline. Maybe an international captainRinTin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:54 pmTime to accept that it will be Warr/ RDP 9/10 this weekend. It's happening, just deal with it.
We should still be able to put a pretty mighty pack together with Hill, Andrews, Bamber, EVR, JLDP, Dugdale and DDP available. Front row isn't bad as we can start Mcintyre, Mcilroy and WGJ. Looking forward to seeing Tumy hopefully get a run.
Backline wise, give RMW and LJ a go at 12 and 13. Flats and Reed outside with Carpenter at 15.
It's not ideal, but it's not the end of the world.
Sorry. That came across badly. It was more that I don't think he's worth a place in the squad. No, I don't want him injured, just playing for Quins not England.Yareet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:13 pmOof @Major Bloodnok, that's a little much. We may not think a player has what it takes but I'm not sure we should be glad anyone's injured.
ejndavid95 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:57 pmOur reward for providing 8 England players...?
Losing 8 nailed on starters for the game vs Bath this weekend even though there's no England game.
The RFU, everybody.
I do wonder if next season there won't be this issue. We've only had 10 teams for the 2023/4 and 2024/5 season. The first was shortened by the World Cup; the second by the Lions.Surbiton_Shark wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:20 pmejndavid95 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:57 pmOur reward for providing 8 England players...?
Losing 8 nailed on starters for the game vs Bath this weekend even though there's no England game.
The RFU, everybody.
Oh come on - we have a hugely congested fixture list with all the teams in the Prem league!!.....what on a minute......no we don't at all.........
Can't make it up really - what a way to support the clubs from the RFU - take away the key players that supporters want to see
I think that in a year or two the 6N is changing to have only one fallow week? But not sure it buys any time in terms of fixture congestion relief as I think it is aligned to the new international tournament where the summer and autumn tests will be contributing to a global competition which may mean the tours need more time than the current arrangements? Will differ to someone better informed (or at the very least with a better memory!) on this one!Yareet wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:05 pmI do wonder if next season there won't be this issue. We've only had 10 teams for the 2023/4 and 2024/5 season. The first was shortened by the World Cup; the second by the Lions.Surbiton_Shark wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:20 pmejndavid95 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:57 pmOur reward for providing 8 England players...?
Losing 8 nailed on starters for the game vs Bath this weekend even though there's no England game.
The RFU, everybody.
Oh come on - we have a hugely congested fixture list with all the teams in the Prem league!!.....what on a minute......no we don't at all.........
Can't make it up really - what a way to support the clubs from the RFU - take away the key players that supporters want to see
2025/6 could be a more normal season.
However, we still need to get in 20 Prem rounds, 8 European, 8 6N (with a camp at the beginning and 2 fallow weeks) and 4-5 AIs (including a camp at the beginning).
That's potentially 41 weeks to fit in before the squad leaves for the July tour in mid-June. I think that just about works with a start in early September.
The counter-argument is that the clubs know what they signed up for in the latest RFU-Club partnership deal and the concessions they would need to make in order to receive the cash they needed to survive. And yet the league arranged fixtures in these weeks. You could just as easily therefore say “Arranging meaningful games when the best players are not around. Premiership Rugby, everybody.”ejndavid95 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:57 pmOur reward for providing 8 England players...?
Losing 8 nailed on starters for the game vs Bath this weekend even though there's no England game.
The RFU, everybody.
I'm not sure the Prem has ever been a constant.The Back Row wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:56 amThe key part of the above thread for me is the concept of "Fitting in" Premiership fixtures.
Step back several years and the Premiership was a constant and teams would build with that in mind, knowing they were losing players to the Internationals, and the odd off weeks for European rounds. Squads were built to capitalise on the talent, with Prem fixtures played during 6N and an opportunity for clubs to box clever - High performing, sub-ENgland players were gold-dust (Beaumont, Taylor, Addison, Hayley etc). Clubs built squads on that basis. There was narrative and drama - would the balance pay off?
Now European fixtures take out blocks and England training camps, six nations and then rest weeks - The Premiership is asked to fit in with the rest. Weeks off; one fixture; players absent; another couple of weeks off; training camps; 6N; two month break; Euro blocks.
How can we hope for fan engagement and growth when theres literal months between fixtures and if people do turn up they dont recognise any of the players.
The Premiership is a busted flush - until you get to the play-offs.