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By Yareet
#74818
pitprop wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:00 pm
Seems to me to be behind a paywall. :no:
I may be wrong but it seems to just be quoting the video the club did
By ledzepsfr
#74819
pitprop wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:00 pm
Seems to me to be behind a paywall. :no:
No paywall today, but yeah, it's as in the video content.
By Olyy
#74821
Would hope our coaches are COTP, with the season only a couple of weeks away!
By RinTin
#74841
SA side announced for the AB's game at Eden Park. Accordingly to reports JLDP was meant to start but picked up a 'niggle'.

This summer he has been pencilled in for 3 games which he has had to miss (wife giving birth and 2 injuries). All I want is to see him deservedly running out as a starter for SA!
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By Olyy
#74866
Sam James starting at 10 for Racing in their opening game of the season tomorrow
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By Surbiton_Shark
#74872
Olyy wrote:
Fri Sep 05, 2025 9:54 pm
Sam James starting at 10 for Racing in their opening game of the season tomorrow
Wow....crickey must have been 2018 ish when he last played 10 for us for a few matches?
By ledzepsfr
#74874
Olyy wrote:
Fri Sep 05, 2025 9:54 pm
Sam James starting at 10 for Racing in their opening game of the season tomorrow
If SJ started at 10 he did bugger all. Got hammered 32 - 7
By Bucks1861
#74903
I’m posting this, solely because it made me smile.

Mike, Rayer Bedford Blues (Rayer won 21 caps for Wales, played 350+ times for Cardiff & was the first player to move clubs for a transfer)

A couple of months ago, Mike Rayer received a LinkedIn notification reminding him that it was the 20-year anniversary of his appointment as director of rugby at Bedford Blues. “I thought bloody hell, that’s come around quickly,” Rayer says of the milestone which makes him the longest-serving director of rugby or head coach in English elite rugby.

In fact if you extrapolate that across English football and cricket, then Rayer has been in charge longer than either Simon Weaver (Harrogate Town) or Peter Moores (Nottinghamshire) – it even surpasses Sir Alex Ferguson’s mammoth tenure as Manchester United manager.

“I feel privileged to still be here,” Rayer said. “You’d like to think, after all these years, I would treat victory and defeat in equal measure, but I think it gets harder. Your weekends are still dictated by the results and how they go.”

It all started with Welsh rugby being at a crossroads – plus ça change! – and a cup of coffee with former Bedford chairman Geoff Irvine at a motorway services station. Rayer was disillusioned with a shake-up of Cardiff’s academy system and saw the role at Bedford, where he had played for a couple of seasons, as a potential stepping stone. Entering his 21st preseason at Goldington Road, Rayer has instead become as ingrained as granite at the second-tier club – and it was all based on a handshake.

“It was perfect timing with what was happening in Wales, and I suppose that’s been my whole career: I had no pace, but I had decent timing,” Rayer said. “I had an initial heads of agreement for a three-year deal, but I have never had a contract. You want to back yourself in a way, and I didn’t want any issues either way. If I wanted to walk away, I probably could have. But we have always operated over a handshake.”

What Rayer has created with Bedford might just rank as English rugby’s most underrated success story. Year on year, Bedford outperform their part-time budget largely funded by their supporters and sponsors – they even turned a small profit last season – while also playing a thrilling brand of rugby. Rayer ranks last season as potentially his most enjoyable as they finished second in the Championship behind Ealing Trailfinders and gave champions Bath a fright in the Premiership Rugby Cup at the Rec.

“I remember afterwards loads of Bath supporters came up to say you’re one of the best teams they’ve seen this season in terms of the way we played the game, which meant a lot,” Rayer said.

Playing that style of rugby, Bedford provide the perfect breeding ground for up and coming players to go on loan. With links to Leicester, Saracens and Northampton, you could easily compile a who’s who of players who cut their teeth under Rayer from Owen Farrell to Dan Cole and Henry Pollock, who Rayer recently discovered gave the half-time team talk in a derby against Ampthill.

“Then he comes out and scores a worldie, running 70 metres down the touchline so fair play,” Rayer said. “We just provide the vehicle for these guys. They know when they come here, we play a good brand of rugby, and they can showcase their talents. We don’t have a massive coaching effect on them, but we operate in a good environment and they can come and and enjoy themselves without too much structure to worry about.”

Saracens director of rugby Mark McCall is among those who is happy to vouch for the effect that a loan spell at Bedford can have on a young player.
“It is not just the rugby education they get but also the compassion, the fairness and the kindness they receive and the understanding of how to be a team man,” says McCall. “Rayer says players who go there have to be all in, that’s as it should be. You send 19-year-olds to Mike, they come back with an increased understanding of what it takes to be a good team man.

“He’s someone who has devoted himself to bringing the best out of other people and showing them what’s possible. I think if you asked players who has been important in their lives, you would have a lot of people around the country who would use the name Mike Rayer.”

Given his consistent track record of overachievement – Bedford have finished in the top half for 16 of his 20 seasons – it is something of a mystery that Rayer has never been snapped up by either a Premiership club or especially a Welsh region. There have been conversations but Rayer never felt the stars align.
“Even with my playing career, I never had a burning desire to play for Wales,” Rayer said. “I know that sounds bizarre. They were dreams, but I have always felt that would be the reward for doing what you’re doing on a daily basis for my club, which was Cardiff. I always felt that with this, if I do my job well on a day-to-day basis, something will come along.”
‘I took Frank Warren to court’

A nuggety full-back, Rayer was something of a cult hero as a player, appearing more than 300 times for Cardiff and winning 21 caps for Wales. Working as a sheet-metal worker, he needed to apply for unpaid leave to go on Wales’ summer tours. His name even became immortalised in rhyming slang (Mikey Rayer = all-dayer) and a beer has been named in his honour by Welsh brewery Crafty Devil. “These two lads were brewing beer in their shed in the garden and I just loved their story,” Rayer said. “They didn’t ask me permission, but I get a few cans every year so I am happy.”

Rayer can also claim to be the first rugby player to be subject to a transfer fee when Bedford, then owned by boxing promoter Frank Warren, signed him from Cardiff for £15,000. “It didn’t end all that well because Frank got into the spat with Don King and had all his assets frozen and I had to go to court to get out my contract.”

‘I make sure my players have a beer with fans’
The advent of professionalism never sat well with Rayer. When he returned to Cardiff, the players stopped socialising with supporters after games, something that he insists upon his own squad doing after every home game.

“We’ve kind of kept them traditional values around the club,” Rayer said. “After a match, the players mingle with the supporters and share the beer with them. And I think that’s everything. That was one thing I noticed when I did go back to Cardiff from here, we were kind of sheltered as players from supporters.

“Thinking back to my career, I never made a memory out of a pay packet. I think being part-time suits us. We don’t see each other all the time. Relationships can become quite frayed when you are in each other’s pockets all the time.”



Rayer seems reluctant to acknowledge the scale of his own achievements, frequently shifting praise to his players such as Dean Adamson, who became the club’s all time try-scorer last season – “he gets Bedford to the core” – or past players such as former fly-half Jake Sharp – “He could do things with a rugby ball I couldn’t dream of” – or old-school enforcer Paul Tupai, “my best signing ever. I signed him at 33 and got 10 years out of him.”

The word Rayer uses over and over is “enjoyment” and this is what keeps him coming back season after season. “It’s the human side of things that I relish, and the relationships you build with the players and coaches,” Rayer said. “I still love the bus trips home. You have some bloody mad bus trips home, particularly if you win down at Cornish Pirates. We’ve won the last three years in a row down there, and I’m asleep by Devon. Some people have said I lack ambition but if something’s a good fit and you enjoy it then why would you want to move?
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By Yareet
#75198
RinTin wrote:
Thu Oct 02, 2025 3:17 pm
https://www.bristolbearsrugby.com/news/ ... l-ibitoye/

Could be it for AJ MacGinty. Done his Achilles with the expected time back being 9 months. Wouldn't surprise me if we don't see him on the pitch again given his age.
I think comparing the wording around Randall (“having surgery and will be back next year”) and AJ (“had surgery”) was interesting.

Incidentally, if Raffi can stay fit, Randall’s injury could be a way back into the England setup.

If
By Olyy
#75204
Very sad for AJ,
Ignoring the physical toll the mental toll of so many repeated, and serious, injuries must be so taxing - I hope he's doing ok

Would love to see him move into coaching, such a skillful player with a great read of the game
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By SSR
#75432
My memory is failing me. Wasn't Luther part of our Academy ? Did he move on before
playing first team games or was he poached ?
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By poyntonshark
#75433
Wasn't academy, came to us from Leeds IIRC, never quite seemed to fit our style, or our style didn't fit his undeniable talents, had particular problems defensively. Left us for Saints after 1 season, I think, and didn't appear to be unique at that time in having major success whilst there.
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By dinogyro
#75459
Lord Elpus wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 10:42 am
Luther Burrell:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... r61plm727o
I've left my motorcycle club because they think it's acceptable to have racist 'banter' and use the P word in front of me etc. The confederate flag goes unchallenged at biker rallies. And they're not Hells Angels, mainly 50+ year-old guys.

I don't know why everyone is so surprised. It's always happened and always will happen. They go under a stone for a while, but they always come back out. It would be much easier if they just had an 'R' stuck to their forehead, then at least we all know where we stand. Nothing worse than the closet racists, I prefer the ones that at least tell the truth.

It's only going to get worse from here, that's for sure.
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By RinTin
#75514
Alex Groves to Scarlets on short term loan.
By RinTin
#75556
He was assessed and wasn't deemed good enough. He wasn't involved in any Stormers matchday squads before going to Wales.

He's got a great opportunity here. First top league game in years. Hope this acts as something of a spring board for him.
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By Lord Elpus
#75568
Didn't he have a serious (for a professional rugby player) medical condition?
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By SSR
#75655
J-LDP and Cobus Wiese not named in the latest Springbok Touring squad.
By RinTin
#75656
No surprise re JL as he's still injured and hasn't played since July.

Cobus has got to feel pretty hard done by. Jean Kleyn ahead of him is baffling.
By Bucks1861
#75657
“ Among the injured players not considered for selection for the gruelling five-Test schedule are Cameron Hanekom, Elrigh Louw, Frans Malherbe, Trevor Nyakane, Jean-Luc du Preez, and Aphelele Fassi.
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By SSR
#75658
J-L was selected twice but failed to start I think. Not a lot of luck , but between him and Dan
maybe their style of play are having an undue toll on their bodies ? Bit like the Curries ?
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By Lord Elpus
#75711
Manu signs for another season at Bayonne. He seems to have stayed fit last season.
By RinTin
#75718
Very surprised by that given his age, but look at Nonu I suppose.

Manu has found fitness and form out in Bayonne (played 80 minutes on more occasions than any other season) - long may it continue. Just like when Jonny went out there it is showing there is something in the southern French air.
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By Lord Elpus
#75867
From what I've seen so far he's a mule - like a donkey but much bigger.
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By SSR
#75868
Our Saffa connections don't seem to be working anymore. Not overwhelmed by the Louw
signing but at least he is playing.
By Olyy
#76013
Good to see him getting another crack in the Prem, was disappointed when he left as he looked really good in the prem cup games he played for us

Never really kicked on at Saints, believe he spent almost all his time there on loan in the championship?
By RinTin
#76126
Sam Hill announces his retirement at the age of 32.

We never really saw the best of him.
By RinTin
#76499
Nick Schonert doing some absolute damage for Vannes in Pro D2 - 5 games, 5 tries.
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By Olyy
#76502
Genuinely thought he'd retired!
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By Lord Elpus
#76504
Akker & Wiese lost to Stains - who were ominously good. Papier on as sub early ish.
By RinTin
#76512
Jesus - never realised he was the non travelling tighthead reserve prop for both 2019 and 2023 world cups.

If Sinkler suffered his 2019 final injury in the semi then Nick would have got the call. Our very own Stephen Donald.
By Bucks1861
#76756
John Mitchell OBE (England head coach), for services to rugby union


I remember him as a rampaging No8 terrorising the opposition at Heywood Rd, then as a rather abrasive DoR.

Anyway, very well deserved.
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By Yareet
#77120
Insightful post from Tommy Taylor on LinkedIn. I had no idea about his leg issues

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tommy-ta ... 38018-QW7M
Physically… not much has changed. The nerve in my leg still hasn’t decided to wake up, and my left calf remains more of a concept than a muscle.

Slightly bothered by that, if I’m honest...
:yikes:
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By Lord Elpus
#77334
Ben Cohen in today's Sunday Times (25/01/2026) on retirement:-

'I knew the game was up when I became surplus to requirements
I was player of the year at Sale , they led me on from January to April.Coach Steve Diamond called me and said "we don't want you mate". No send off , nothing. I'd no club, nowhere to go, so I retired.'
By AndaleManito
#77344
Lord Elpus wrote:
Sun Jan 25, 2026 2:26 pm
Ben Cohen in today's Sunday Times (25/01/2026) on retirement:-

'I knew the game was up when I became surplus to requirements
I was player of the year at Sale , they led me on from January to April.Coach Steve Diamond called me and said "we don't want you mate". No send off , nothing. I'd no club, nowhere to go, so I retired.'
...Brutal...

Wonder why Dimes didn't want to keep him after being player of the year?
By Bucks1861
#77345
I was a season ticket holder at that time. My recollection of him being player of the year isn’t “clear.” I also recall he had bags of experience, etc but couldn’t be described as rapid.

I stand to be corrected but Player of the Year


2024 Sam James
2023 Sam James & Jono Ross
2022 Faf de Klerk
2021 ??
2020 Rob Webber
2019 Andrei Ostrikov
2018 Johnny Leota
2017 Eifion Lewis-Roberts
2016 ??
2015 Mark Jones & Will Cliff
2014 ??
2013 Mark Cueto
2012 Nick MacLeod
2011 Charlie Hodgson
2010 Dean Schofield
2009 ??
2008 Nick Johnson
2007 Niels de Vos
2006 Robbie Dickson
2005 Bryan Redpath

I believe some of the above are defo dubious. That’s what age does to you.

BTW I think he played for us between 2009/2011?
By Surbiton_Shark
#77346
I'm of a similar vintage - I remember Cohen playing for us during one of declining periods.

Must admit can't remember him doing much on the pitch - he scored a try vs Toulouse away when I was there -
By Olyy
#77347
From memory I do remember him playing well in that final(? was he here for multiple?) season and being surprised we let him go/told him he was surplus to requirements - maybe a money issue?
By Surbiton_Shark
#77349
Found this via GPT in an interview about the Lions.

"Sale don't want me anymore because they're trying to spend more money in the pack," said Cohen, who joined the Sharks from French side Brive in 2009.

"I've got another couple of years left in me so I'll try to get a club in the Premiership. If not, I'll retire. So we'll just have to see what happens."

Cohen’s contract with the Edgeley Park outfit runs out at the end of the current campaign and the former Northampton star is clearly disappointed not to have been handed a new deal.

The move comes as new Sale boss Steve Diamond assesses his options having replaced Mike Brewer earlier this year.

Diamond has already made plenty of signings up front in the form of Munster prop Tony Buckley, Leeds youngster Kearnan Myall and Wasps hooker Joe Ward, and Cohen believes the emphasis on strengthening the pack has ultimately led to his departure.

"Sale don't want me anymore because they're trying to spend more money in the pack," added Cohen.

"I've played more than 50 games in one-and-a-half seasons at Sale and I play week in, week out.

"I'm a bit gutted that I'm given the push but that's life. You just have to take it on the chin."
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By Clutch
#77352
Those player of the seasons aren't right surely. No way S James won twice on the bounce, and he was bad one of those seasons and couldn't get in the team ahead of RDP for those 2 seasons when Ford was fit.

Cohen was poor first season and "fine" the second season. Not close to player of season, so a strange choice by the supporters club. Also presumably on good money, we had Addison coming through, so he wouldn't have been first choice.

On the flip side his money went on Tony Buckley!!!
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#77359
BIGGEST SIGNING IN CLUB HISTORY

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