Or were they Spanish?? Help!!FarnhamShark wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:44 pmWe played a Portuguese club side in a European competition at Edgeley Park. They had the audacity to score the first try, but we ended up with 90 points on the board.
Spanish - Cetransa El Salvador. The whole squad photographed the scoreboard after their try following Sir Charles throwing an intercept pass.FarnhamShark wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:44 pmWe played a Portuguese club side in a European competition at Edgeley Park. They had the audacity to score the first try, but we ended up with 90 points on the board.
I totally agree. Due to the draw we were always going to be good enough to make the quarter-finals and most likely the semis which will be seen as success by the gin-drinkers at HQ so nothing will change and we will continue to bore the planet with our brand of rugby.DavenportSharky wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:05 pmI don’t see any dramatic improvement and we continue to see the reward for an inexperienced conservative coaching team appointed too near to this tournament. England have gone backwards while Ireland, France and Scotland have gone from strength to strength playing with pride, invention, intelligence and flair. Too many of that squad are past their best and several past their use by date. I guess we will see Bevan, Smith, Arundell etc. against Chile alongside the time expired Farrell. It will be back to the same lineup as recently used when we play Samoa. Thanks to the ridiculous draw, we will reach the quarterfinals and probably the semifinals but if we reach the final it will be a greater shock than Japan beating South Africa. We don’t deserve to do well in this competition and it will be terrible for the sport of rugby union if we do.
Whilst that may be true, there were many who felt after the warm up games that we would struggle to get out of the group. Instead we are P2 W2, will be in the quarters unless we lose both of our next two games and (Tom's questionable red aside) have much improved discipline.SimonG wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:30 pmI totally agree. Due to the draw we were always going to be good enough to make the quarter-finals and most likely the semis which will be seen as success by the gin-drinkers at HQ so nothing will change and we will continue to bore the planet with our brand of rugby.DavenportSharky wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:05 pmI don’t see any dramatic improvement and we continue to see the reward for an inexperienced conservative coaching team appointed too near to this tournament. England have gone backwards while Ireland, France and Scotland have gone from strength to strength playing with pride, invention, intelligence and flair. Too many of that squad are past their best and several past their use by date. I guess we will see Bevan, Smith, Arundell etc. against Chile alongside the time expired Farrell. It will be back to the same lineup as recently used when we play Samoa. Thanks to the ridiculous draw, we will reach the quarterfinals and probably the semifinals but if we reach the final it will be a greater shock than Japan beating South Africa. We don’t deserve to do well in this competition and it will be terrible for the sport of rugby union if we do.
Anyone any idea how you become Fijian?
My glass must have been half-full as well then because as I said I always thought QF was a given and SF a probability. Of course the glass needs to be emptied (several times) to make watching the rubbish we are playing anything like a joyful experience!Yareet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:39 pmWhilst that may be true, there were many who felt after the warm up games that we would struggle to get out of the group. Instead we are P2 W2, will be in the quarters unless we lose both of our next two games and (Tom's questionable red aside) have much improved discipline.SimonG wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:30 pmI totally agree. Due to the draw we were always going to be good enough to make the quarter-finals and most likely the semis which will be seen as success by the gin-drinkers at HQ so nothing will change and we will continue to bore the planet with our brand of rugby.DavenportSharky wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:05 pmI don’t see any dramatic improvement and we continue to see the reward for an inexperienced conservative coaching team appointed too near to this tournament. England have gone backwards while Ireland, France and Scotland have gone from strength to strength playing with pride, invention, intelligence and flair. Too many of that squad are past their best and several past their use by date. I guess we will see Bevan, Smith, Arundell etc. against Chile alongside the time expired Farrell. It will be back to the same lineup as recently used when we play Samoa. Thanks to the ridiculous draw, we will reach the quarterfinals and probably the semifinals but if we reach the final it will be a greater shock than Japan beating South Africa. We don’t deserve to do well in this competition and it will be terrible for the sport of rugby union if we do.
Anyone any idea how you become Fijian?
I prefer to be glass half-full.
A quick Google of 'England Player Ratings' shows most outlets didn't think much of the performance.ageinghoody wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:07 pmJust a thought if I may.
I haven't seen the game, currently being in a campervan with minimal internet access, but all the reports I've read by professionals appear to disagree profoundly with what's being said on here.
Just one example, on the Beeb website Matt Dawson is quite complimentary about Mitchell's performance.
Of course, that might just be the scrum-halves union talking.
Sadly I suspect Borthwick will be more of a threat to Ford's playing chances in the latter stages of the competition than any opponent.Lord Elpus wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:05 amStupid to play him v Namibia.
Exactly why we shouldn't play Ford v Chile.
Fwiw I'd have had Arundell at fb, Smith 10, Farrell 12, Lawrence 13,
You’re probably right, Borthwick anointed Farrell as team captain for the rest of the tournament yesterday.SimonG wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:20 amSadly I suspect Borthwick will be more of a threat to Ford's playing chances in the latter stages of the competition than any opponent.Lord Elpus wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:05 amStupid to play him v Namibia.
Exactly why we shouldn't play Ford v Chile.
Fwiw I'd have had Arundell at fb, Smith 10, Farrell 12, Lawrence 13,
Indeed - it's looking like the four group winners will be France, Ireland, Wales and England, with Scotland being unlucky with the very hard draw (they could have gone through with Wales or England) and even Italy still having a chance if they can shock NZ. Those four teams are also favourites to be the 4 semi finalists.
It's actually looking quite interesting with all 3 teams isn't it - Samoa, Japan, Argentina - for the quarters? Might be good to have Creevy back sooner?
You could be waiting a long time for an answer there Major....Major Bloodnok wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:07 pmSo can someone explain the fundamental difference between the Japan 2's challenge and Tom's? Apart from the speed that the opponent was travelling...
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