By Olyy
#35662
Good win for Budgies at Bath, and Wasps really put Bristol to the sword without looking particularly unbeatable themselves - they'll only get stronger as they have more time under their new coaching staff
Late winner for Saints at Chiefs as well

Chiefs and Bristol both 0-2, and 12th/13th in the table after two rounds - not sure how many would've predicted that!
By Olyy
#36096
Good to see the Budgies doing well, they play a very entertaining brand of rugby and have some great, local, players in their side
The last 2mins or so of their game today was nuts!


Not sure what they've got against Wasps players eyes, though - backing up last seasons gouge on Bassett with a gouge, today, on Gopperth. Hopefully Penny is punished to the full extend of the law, no place for it in the game.
By SimonG
#36256
Clutch wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:20 pm
Not yet convinced it’s deliberate
Indeed but it is interesting that if you make contact with an opponent's head with force it doesn't matter if it was accidental or not so should it be different if you make contact with the eye of an opponent? Both can have very severe consequences for the injured party.

(Not sure I have an answer to my own question).
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By Clutch
#36262
You are correct. Player is responsible for his actions I guess. Would like some common sense applied. Should be less than the Carraras one for example.
By ageinghoody
#36267
SimonG wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:53 am
Clutch wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:20 pm
Not yet convinced it’s deliberate
Indeed but it is interesting that if you make contact with an opponent's head with force it doesn't matter if it was accidental or not so should it be different if you make contact with the eye of an opponent? Both can have very severe consequences for the injured party.

(Not sure I have an answer to my own question).
So much relies on perception though, doesn't it?

I recall Mark Cueto being cited for "making contact ... etc." when neither he, the officials, nor even the alleged victim (Christian Day?), were aware that the incident had occurred.
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By SimonG
#36363
ageinghoody wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:32 pm
SimonG wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:53 am
Clutch wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:20 pm
Not yet convinced it’s deliberate
Indeed but it is interesting that if you make contact with an opponent's head with force it doesn't matter if it was accidental or not so should it be different if you make contact with the eye of an opponent? Both can have very severe consequences for the injured party.

(Not sure I have an answer to my own question).
So much relies on perception though, doesn't it?

I recall Mark Cueto being cited for "making contact ... etc." when neither he, the officials, nor even the alleged victim (Christian Day?), were aware that the incident had occurred.
I'd say yes and no. Certainly we all perceive these incidents differently but referees can't.

In the "good old days" a referee was left to make up his own mind and act accordingly. Nowadays in an attempt to be consistent and for player safety reasons refs seem to have little choice but to refer to the ABC guidelines provided to them.
By Olyy
#36514
DavenportSharky wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:51 pm
Extraordinary. Difficult to see Smith not starting for Jones now. If next week we are 21 up after 20 minutes, God help us.
Watch EJ start Vunipola and Farrell!

Dombrandt was genuinely amazing, exactly what England have been crying out for for years
Curry, Underhill, Dombrandt would be a ludicrously talented backrow
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By ShawSharkRedemption
#36525
Only saw the prem TV highlights, but must say that Quinns looked on fire and Bristol faded
badly. Hope we put on a better show, but our second half performances to date don't bode well.
By SimonG
#36530
Bristol play a very open game which helps Quins style of play. I think they will find it much more difficult next week.
By Surbiton_Shark
#37227
The Bath game was absolute car crash TV

Unsurprisingly I've noticed social media and the papers now rumouring Dimes in talks with them.

I was half-wondering if Cips doesn't fancy Bath and if AJ's injury's don't clear up if he would come back on a loan though penalty kicking would be a problem.
By Olyy
#37229
As much as I love Cips I think that would be a big big risk - I've no doubt that Axe could get the best out of him (like Dimes did) but how long would it take to get him out of his funk?
By Surbiton_Shark
#37235
Is Cam another one who is injury prone (thinking of the Addison thread) - he's injured again at the moment I think - seems to have had a lot considering his age
By LJK
#37249
I only watched the first half from the Rec. but it was so one sided I switched off. Can't understand how a team oozing with talent as Bath are, failed so spectacularly, but then again Sarries were on fire.
I did wonder if Bath fail to resolve the issues soon, if Cipriani would look for a way out before long
By DaveAitch
#37260
Sides playing well tend to convert chances, while those playing poorly don't. At one point in the game the stats were: Bath, 4 times in the opposition 22 - no points, Saracens 4 times - 28 points.
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